tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9059682603522659107.post8659936019401214640..comments2023-10-28T07:29:33.193-04:00Comments on My Favorite Occupation: END TORTURE NOW!! END TORTURE NOW!!Robbhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01360501621610946324noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9059682603522659107.post-72088414082089440832007-06-30T20:17:00.000-04:002007-06-30T20:17:00.000-04:00singing school?*grin*singing school?<BR/><BR/>*grin*Colhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08584800335905167967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9059682603522659107.post-3289700790255796432007-06-30T06:45:00.000-04:002007-06-30T06:45:00.000-04:00My mom totally rocks. Where do you think I develo...My mom totally rocks. Where do you think I developed my voice of reason? ::grin::Robbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01360501621610946324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9059682603522659107.post-35737528118275567282007-06-30T00:48:00.000-04:002007-06-30T00:48:00.000-04:00yeah, i'm tripping out that that was written by yo...yeah, i'm tripping out that that was written by your mom, too. I geuss maybe if she is reading your blog, I'll have to try real hard to not see all the innuendo you write in here. I mean, I don't even think my mom can spell blog, let alone read mine.Colhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08584800335905167967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9059682603522659107.post-76956329753670005892007-06-29T10:39:00.000-04:002007-06-29T10:39:00.000-04:00omg, your MOM. well, i guess i could have written ...omg, your MOM. well, i guess i could have written my torture comment then.<BR/><BR/>may i just say that i really look forward to the day i can have conversations like this with my children?jillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13547516924308455964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9059682603522659107.post-13469739785655602912007-06-29T07:17:00.000-04:002007-06-29T07:17:00.000-04:00In most areas of my life, I've inheireted your opt...In most areas of my life, I've inheireted your optimism mother. I instinctively believe the best about people and expect the best outcomes. But the exception is politics. You are right, that a healthy degree of skepticism is warranted when it comes to listening to people with an agenda, which covers any politician for sure. But I'm not making wild guesses about torture, the facts are there. If you believe Clinton was lying when he said he never had sex with Monica Lewinsky, then you have to believe Bush is lying when he says we don't torture. It is the exact same kind of word game. <BR/><BR/>Also, the delineation you make between interrogating criminal terrorists and torturing innocent people isn't what this rally was about. No one objects to terrorists being interrogated. But, and this is my opinion, does not mean they should have water poured on their heads to make them think they are drowning, or have their little children arrested and told the kids will be killed if they don't cooperate, or be sexually abused and humiliated. Do I think terrorists should be put in jail and prevented from doing anything else? Of course! But I don't care how evil they are, what is great about America is that we don't stoop down to their level to retaliate. And we certainly don't leave it up to politicians to make unilateral decisions on who is guilty or innocent. <BR/><BR/>Posts like this are hard to write, even if I think it is a great exercise to help define what you believe. But jeez Mom, does your first post on my blog have to be so difficult? LOLRobbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01360501621610946324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9059682603522659107.post-42093590607085161032007-06-28T11:46:00.000-04:002007-06-28T11:46:00.000-04:00I cry out against torture as well - in the USA - o...I cry out against torture as well - in the USA - or in any place on planet earth. My father was tortured in a nursing home until he died and my family never felt that the powers that be did anything to prevent it or to bring those responsible to justice. <BR/>Having said that I have to continually remind myself that many things we hear from the media, from outspoken individuals, from politicians, or from ANYONE who gains in anyway (fame, fortune, whatever) must be considered with some degree of scepticism. <BR/>There is a vast difference between the interrogation of criminal terrorists and the torture of innocent people. The delineation is a fine line that citizens who are not trained or charged with the protection of their country can easily make.<BR/>Let us acknowledge that we must always be vigilant to let our leaders know we will not condone torture, but let us also acknowledge that there is much we do not know, cannot know and that somewhere in this world there must be trust that there is a reason we cannot allow the bad guys to overcome us by paranoia that our leaders *are* the bad guys. <BR/>There are instances of soldiers going over the top and adminstering torture. That is BAD. These are always the examples used to make the point that our leaders have willingly 'signed off' on torture. But how often will we ever know when a Taliban leader was interrogated and forced to give over information that has kept our country from being attacked again since 9/11? Bearing in mind that national security requires certain measures of secrecy to BE national security, can we really be sure our leaders are not doing what must be done and are using measures that terrorists would consider baby play?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com